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Mar 20, 7:30 AM
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I say this as someone who loved the first season, but this season just kinda feels bleh to me.

I think it could be because this season is adapting overall less chapters per episode, so that might explain the significantly slower pacing.

I miss when there was some sort of medical mystery Maomao needed to solve in order to save someone, now it just feels like she's just describing medical conditions that happened like 20 years ago.

To any light novel/manga readers, does it start to pick up? or does the series remain like this for the foreseeable future.

side note: If I need to hear any more about how much the previous emperor loved to diddle kids I'm going to lose it
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Mar 20, 7:38 AM
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I also noticed this. When previous season was airing I was heavily anticipating each episode, but this season not so much.
Probably because we have much less Jinshi in this season or because of episodical format.

Mar 20, 7:52 AM
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I'm of the opposite stance here; I wasn't a huge fan of the medical mysteries, but rather the political dynamic of the Rear Palace and Consorts along with the overall character interactions.
Like, the episodic medical mysteries were cool, but exploring the past of the Royal Bloodline and re-contextualising present circumstances with the help of past events is where the show shines for me.
I liked the Lakan/Maomao arc in Season 1 the most for the same reason.

I've noticed that the show has been focusing on my preferences a bit more as compared to the last season, which is also the source of your problem with the show.
Valid take tbh
Mar 20, 7:53 AM
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Too soon to say, but so far I prefer the 1st season.
Mar 20, 8:09 AM
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The first season was a slow burn too until all the pieces started fitting together.

So I think we're still waiting for those climax moments like the assassination attempt or Lakan's backstory from the first season.

Mar 20, 8:15 AM
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Nah, the political drama surrounding Royal family is very interesting. Episodic format existed in 1st season too. I am not seeing anything to judge for or against this season so far.
Mar 20, 8:27 AM
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Trust me when I say part 2 is the meat of this season. Everything will tie together.
Mar 20, 8:50 AM
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OrcMeiser said:
I say this as someone who loved the first season, but this season just kinda feels bleh to me.

I think it could be because this season is adapting overall less chapters per episode, so that might explain the significantly slower pacing.

I miss when there was some sort of medical mystery Maomao needed to solve in order to save someone, now it just feels like she's just describing medical conditions that happened like 20 years ago.

To any light novel/manga readers, does it start to pick up? or does the series remain like this for the foreseeable future.

side note: If I need to hear any more about how much the previous emperor loved to diddle kids I'm going to lose it

I've read through the manga and the light novels and I can promise you the next episode is where everything begins to pick up again, I agree it has been a bit of a slow start, they kinda stopped at a bad spot with the manga so the start of this season had to be all the little bits that aren't really that important or sometimes even interesting. But I'm so excited for the next couple episodes as it starts to build onto the story!
Mar 20, 8:51 AM
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short answer : no
Long answer : noooooooooooooooooooooo
Mar 20, 8:54 AM

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ForeverTraitor said:
The first season was a slow burn too until all the pieces started fitting together.

So I think we're still waiting for those climax moments like the assassination attempt or Lakan's backstory from the first season.

Right? I have a feeling all these episodic mysteries are going to all come together for something.
Mar 20, 8:59 AM

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I wouldn't say it "fell off," but Season 2 does feel a little inconsequential right now. (I'm an anime-only)

There's always something at least slightly interesting going on, but it's not really clear where they're going with all of this. Not a lot happened that felt very dramatic or dangerous (except with the Lihua's jealous head lady-in-waiting, maybe). The more laid-back tone is enjoyable in its own way, still.

I also wish we had more poison-tasting and more active medical situations.

But I still have faith in the season. Season 1 had that episode with the three brothers and the box sealed with lead (which I didn't enjoy), but that case actually connected to the assassination attempt (?) on Jinshi inside the temple.

There are a few threads that are still developing right now, like whoever's teaching and helping people about poison, the twins with the caravan, the royal bloodline, Shisui's identity, etc.
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ShadowGamesMY said:
short answer : no
Long answer : noooooooooooooooooooooo

i wanted to say that :(
Mar 20, 9:58 AM
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No, not really. (char limit)
Mar 20, 10:02 AM
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yes(and the blind fanbase is getting worse)
Mar 20, 11:32 AM
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Is intentional planned pacing. You are now questioning exactly when the very next episode is a big one.
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Mar 20, 11:37 AM

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the first half of season 1 was as episodic as this one lol, it was until the 2nd half that every piece of the puzzle was starting to fit together. I do hope that in the 2nd half we recieve some payoff like in s1, for example maybe a big reveal abt jinshi (although it is already super obv) or telling us who is the mastermind behind the poison.

Mar 20, 11:45 AM
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it's still peak. I don't think more needs be said.
Mar 20, 11:48 AM
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Gingerswag_7 said:
Trust me when I say part 2 is the meat of this season. Everything will tie together.

I agree with you on this point .. people, everything in rush, they don't want slow burn
they want everything in an easy, fast way 😡
Mar 20, 11:48 AM

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Whether it's falling off or not is a matter of subjective opinion, but speaking about the pacing specifically, I feel like it's maintained exactly the same pace as S1 so far.
Mar 20, 1:12 PM
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no way it's as good if not better than S1
Mar 20, 1:35 PM
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simply no, end of the topic
Mar 20, 1:48 PM

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Whether it's falling off or not is a matter of subjective opinion, but speaking about the pacing specifically, I feel like it's maintained exactly the same pace as S1 so far.
@Menternor I think majority of these people binge watched all S1 when it was near its conclusion and now they're watching it week-to-week so it feels different to them.


It's kinda funny seeing people complain about the "episodical" nature of a series literally called The Diaries because it's narrated almost entirely from the perspective of one person's daily routine.
"Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status. Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions."
Mar 20, 2:57 PM

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No. In fact, the episode before the last one was probably my single favorite episode of the series (though episode 19 would be a close contender).

But I don't need or desire faster pacing at all, and if anything the opposite. I prefer slower pacing and they could significantly slow it down from the rate of progression of how it is presently and to me would only benefit.

I think that it really depends on what you want out of this show. For me it's the historical period setting, a mystery (which can either be ultra-long-running mysteries with only the tiniest of details sprinkled across many dozens or even hundreds of episodes, individual episodic one-off mysteries, or mysteries which function on two levels as enjoyable without greater context as individual episodic one-offs but also with greater time and perspective will later be revealed to be a subset of the overarching mystery and plot), and Slice of Life. With the occasional drama, romance, and action. That's it.

They have a well-defined and established setting and premise, they've settled into and got comfortable with it, slowly fleshing out the range and depth as well as past and backstories of existing characters while periodically introducing new ones, some of who themselves will later be similarly fleshed out, and I don't see any need for them to charge full steam ahead on advancing the central plot like a bullet train charging toward its destination.

But I favor Slice of Life and it's one of my favorite genres, and I always saw this series as at least partially a SoL one. I would be perfectly fine, more than fine, with 300 episodes and a slow meandering Slice of Life in alternative universe Ming dynasty era China.

Can I also say it's just so nice to have a series in recent times unafraid to be long-running again, including airing two two cour-length seasons comprising a total of almost 50 episodes within two years? I wish far more series nowadays would do this again, as used to be more prevalent. After so many rushed mystery, drama, Sci-Fi, action, etc. series which cram their complicated story which clearly needs more room and breathing space into one 11 - 13 episode one cour run with rushed endings and then disappear never to be heard from again, or which release two or three 11 - 13 episode one cour runs three or six or 10 years apart, it's so beyond welcome to have more series like The Apothecary Diaries, Orb: On the Movements of the Earth, Dungeon Meshi, etc. from recent years that don't feel so disgustingly rushed and crammed into their runtime.

When I'm enjoying a show enough it could essentially go on forever and I'm not going to be clamoring for packing in more concrete world-changing and plot-changing developments which would only expedite its end. It's obvious in the current era that due to work schedules, money, popular patience and expectations, etc. that the shorter runs and faster pacing of many series have surged in popularity, but it's absolutely the case that not everyone wants that.
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Mar 20, 3:05 PM
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Rissenicus said:
@Menternor I think majority of these people binge watched all S1 when it was near its conclusion and now they're watching it week-to-week so it feels different to them.


It's kinda funny seeing people complain about the "episodical" nature of a series literally called The Diaries because it's narrated almost entirely from the perspective of one person's daily routine.

Guilty as charged with binge watching. But it's actually because when season 1 was airing I was on a hiatus from watching and only now I picked it up since season 2 was nearing.

I must say I enjoy episodic nature of this story. But as I binged 8 or 9 episodes from season 1, if I had a chance to do that with episodes from season 2, I simply wouldn't. It's not that they're bad, it's still a good story but first 12 episodes from season 1 were more interesting to me. Maybe because there was Jinshi/Maomao banter and more poisons. And it was a csi like anime at that time but here, I don't see it.

I still enjoy it and wait for it each week but I think I have to agree with OP
Mar 20, 3:18 PM
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Having read the light novel, wait for part 2 of this season
Mar 20, 4:18 PM
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ForeverTraitor said:
The first season was a slow burn too until all the pieces started fitting together.

So I think we're still waiting for those climax moments like the assassination attempt or Lakan's backstory from the first season.

I agree. I've been enjoying this season just as much as s1. I think people just forget how the show works it's magic. After the amazing climax of S1, I can understand how people could think it's a tad slow.
Mar 20, 4:49 PM
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So far, I definitely preferred the first season
Mar 20, 4:56 PM
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yes(and the blind fanbase is getting worse)

No and no again, bro 💀
Mar 20, 5:06 PM
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LN reader here. I can only tell you that a LOT of those seems meaningless little things will ALL add up to the cour 2 in S2 (including little things from S1). You gotta be patience. It’s all work up to the huge arc in LN3!
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i hate to say it fell off but i can't lie in saying that the starting parts were the most interesting.
Mar 20, 7:07 PM
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First 10 episodes of first season was kinda boring though.
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I don't think the series has fallen off and in general the quality is higher than the crap you have to wade through each season.
On a personal level though- aside from Maomao being an amusing character I just realized I don't care for much here.
I don't have interest for all the political and family drama being presented. I'm not looking forward to any reveals or lose ties the characters have to work through.
The slower and more intricate pacing has allowed me to question if i'm taking anything away else from this and the answer is no... and I will not continue after this.
Mar 20, 8:50 PM
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It's going somewhere. The slow build up is intentional, don't worry
Mar 21, 12:12 AM
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I'm a LN reader the set up always pays off for me at least :)
Mar 21, 1:41 AM
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no it didn't

it was never that good to begin with
Mar 21, 5:01 AM
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OrcMeiser said:
I say this as someone who loved the first season, but this season just kinda feels bleh to me.

I think it could be because this season is adapting overall less chapters per episode, so that might explain the significantly slower pacing.

I miss when there was some sort of medical mystery Maomao needed to solve in order to save someone, now it just feels like she's just describing medical conditions that happened like 20 years ago.

To any light novel/manga readers, does it start to pick up? or does the series remain like this for the foreseeable future.

side note: If I need to hear any more about how much the previous emperor loved to diddle kids I'm going to lose it

I think this second season is fantastic. It has not yet reached its climax but it will surely come. As far as the topics he deals with, I think they are appropriate. The first season had a focus on the life and family of Maomao and therefore much to know and use his knowledge in the field of poisons and treatments. The focus of this season seems to be on Jinshi and his family’s mysteries, hence the bloodlines and secrets hidden by previous emperors. One thing that both seasons have in common is the way they decide to do the episodes, that is, each episode seems like a different story. But I think that as in the first season led us to discover the secrets of Maomao this one will come slowly to reveal the secrets of Jinshi.
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The series has always been about slowbuilding and gradually connecting the dots from previous arcs and episodes to make for a very complex narrative with a lot of threads intertwining. I'm not sure why now think the series is "falling off"...hell, I've never really liked using that sort of description unless it's 100% undubious. That being said, I don't claim to speak for the majority here in that regard.
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I've read through the manga and the light novels and I can promise you the next episode is where everything begins to pick up again,

You were right... Should've waited just one more week, ha.
Mar 21, 10:40 AM
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It’s more or less following the same structure as the first season
Mar 21, 11:48 AM

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I can confidently say that it isn't falling off, it was always bad.
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The pacing is fine. If you recall, this occurred in S1 too, with stuff clicking together only towards the latter half of the season. maybe consider putting it on hold and restarting when the season ends.




Mar 21, 1:50 PM
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Todays episode might have brought it back imo.
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I can confidently say that it isn't falling off, it was always bad.

Then why are you still watching it if you don’t like it? I’ve seen you comment negatively about this series since Season 1
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According to the internet, every single thing is either mid, dead or fallen off. There is literally no good media on the planet.
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i hate to say it fell off but i can't lie in saying that the starting parts were the most interesting.
I never thought the show was amazing but yes I do find this season's batch of episodes noticeably weaker. Its still a relaxing watch though its going from like an enthusiastic 7 to a more mild one.


@ryzxgum
The start has the benefit of being fresh and introducing the new characters that make up our general main stars. As with most stories its kind of diminishing returns the later it goes on.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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classic weebs who binged s1 and never had to exp the slow burn of s1 complaining now that they have to exp slow burn s2

when s2 climax is gonna btfo of everyone so hard

or the fact kusuriya attracts the solo levling crowd/romance crowd
so they're salty
reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad
Mar 21, 11:41 PM
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I read the manga and not the novel.

This is an upgrade for Maomao, she no longer viewed or act as an apothecary that can help solve problem, but rather someone who can solve problem that just happen to be an apothecary.

And it still like that until the recent chapter in manga.
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Sorry haters, can't hear your rage through all this winning <3



@Zefyris I think season 2 might reach a score of ≥9.00 at this rate, if it keeps getting better, that is.
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