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| I actually thought this chapter was only OK, nothing really new or exciting happened. The information/theory about Titans being humans from the begining is something everyone pretty much already knew (it was quite obvious when they were in Connie's town). I have a bit of a hard time understanding why people loved this chapter, there really wasn't anything to love about it, in my opinion. And the artwork doesn't really bother me too much, it's not like I can do better anyway. Although I must say it took a while for my brain to realise it was Mikasa in the first couple of pages, she looked very different. But otherwise, the artwork was decent. Can't wait for the next chapter. I hope they show more of Ymir, Reiner and Bertolt. |
Reverb_Shock said: This is just one of the chapters that stood out to me as having really bad art. It's bearable most of the time, but I think this one was particularly bad. I mean, I couldn't even tell it was Mikasa on that stretcher at the beginning of the chapter. I think Mikasa's fringe was swept away from her forehead, hence why she looked different. It's not unlikely that someone wanted to check her for injuries around the fore head. It's no inconsistency, its simply hair being hair. I guess people aren't use to hair acting like hair in anime/manga. Must be a case of reality isn't real. |
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Darklight0303 said: Reverb_Shock said: Darklight0303 said: This is literally the second time I've ever commented on the Shingeki no Kyojin chapters. I'm just sharing...my opinion man.Reverb_Shock said: OK, the story is great, the characters are great, blah blah blah. But let's talk about how shitty this art is. Jesus Christ it was terrible this chapter, it's like the guy just stopped trying. Maybe he should hire an artist to do this shit for him because he can't draw a character the same way twice. Oh look another copy paste post like yours every other chapter you've bothered to grace with your illustrious would be criticism =_= Could've sworn there was another person like you who kept saying the same thing over the past months. Guess the messages made you blend together in my head. So I'll give you an apology for that. Still I feel complaints about the art after it's been ongoing for so long aren't going to change anything really. I think I know who you're talking about. Some jackass who was spamming that shit in every thread and had that dumb quote in his sig. Unfortunately he's got some legit ammo from this chapter, since Mikasa really didn't look like the cute Mikasa that I've grown accustomed to. |
| I don't know about everyone but i personally loved this chapter because of the character's interactions with one and another (which reminded me of the training arc then) and i love how at the end there's like a comparison between levi's squad and the current squad. It felt so nostalgic. It wouldn't be too bad if they start developing the characters from here on. I would hate it so much if everyone somehow already moved on from their past so quickly like it never happened. One of the thing that i like about snk is how it delves with the aftermath of the battle and the characters which is something very rare in a survival series. It made everything felt so humane there. I've read/watch way too many series where the people doesn't even give a damn about the dead anymore as though nothing ever happened. No impact whatsoever so the death usually felt cheap. While we learnt of nothing new about the titan (well, we did know some stuff about the titan's weakness and how the humans might have been assimilated and stuff), I like how Hanji discovered the information. I thought it was going to take forever before the humans even realized that titans were once human because a lot of shounen does that a lot. ._. So it was nice to see that the characters aren't actually being dumb. Fully action chapter clearly isn't enough to satisfy me if that was all there is to it. |
EstherellaNov 11, 2013 3:12 AM
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Jotaro_Kujo said: Darklight0303 said: Reverb_Shock said: Darklight0303 said: This is literally the second time I've ever commented on the Shingeki no Kyojin chapters. I'm just sharing...my opinion man.Reverb_Shock said: OK, the story is great, the characters are great, blah blah blah. But let's talk about how shitty this art is. Jesus Christ it was terrible this chapter, it's like the guy just stopped trying. Maybe he should hire an artist to do this shit for him because he can't draw a character the same way twice. Oh look another copy paste post like yours every other chapter you've bothered to grace with your illustrious would be criticism =_= Could've sworn there was another person like you who kept saying the same thing over the past months. Guess the messages made you blend together in my head. So I'll give you an apology for that. Still I feel complaints about the art after it's been ongoing for so long aren't going to change anything really. I think I know who you're talking about. Some jackass who was spamming that shit in every thread and had that dumb quote in his sig. Unfortunately he's got some legit ammo from this chapter, since Mikasa really didn't look like the cute Mikasa that I've grown accustomed to. Haha if you think SNK art is bad try reading HxH/One-punch man(one)... fortunately for me I'm more tolerant in that area than most, I'd rather have a great story with bad art than mediocre story with great art. I also agree its a bit too late to start complaining about consistency and such. |
| I'm glad to see Connie get more time in the spotlight, but I guess this isn't exactly the ideal way to get more appearances. Either way, I doubt many were very shocked at the revelation explained in this chapter, but it was nice to see some more facts about the Titans come to light. Plus, Levi gets a new squad, although the old has not yet been forgotten. Looking forward to where the story is going from now. |
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Throttlee said: Estherella said: I don't know about everyone but i personally loved this chapter because of the character's interactions with one and another (which reminded me of the training arc then) and i love how at the end there's like a comparison between levi's squad and the current squad. It felt so nostalgic. It wouldn't be too bad if they start developing the characters from here on. I would hate it so much if everyone somehow already moved on from their past so quickly like it never happened. One of the thing that i like about snk is how it delves with the aftermath of the battle and the characters which is something very rare in a survival series. It made everything felt so humane there. I've read/watch way too many series where the people doesn't even give a damn about the dead anymore as though nothing ever happened. No impact whatsoever so the death usually felt cheap. While we learnt of nothing new about the titan (well, we did know some stuff about the titan's weakness and how the humans might have been assimilated and stuff), I like how Hanji discovered the information. I thought it was going to take forever before the humans even realized that titans were once human because a lot of shounen does that a lot. ._. So it was nice to see that the characters aren't actually being dumb. Fully action chapter clearly isn't enough to satisfy me if that was all there is to it. but at the same time no one is mentioning what the heck just happened, Eren's "power" or Reiner betraying them, not even questioning Christa for everything she may knows. That's kind of weird. Maybe that's the reason why Erwin seems very interested on both of them. The chances are we'll probably most likely going to see something next chapter or so. This chapter was more of an aftermath kinda thing, it's one of what snk particularly emphasize on the most. It's progressing faster than i expected so i was thankful that they weren't being a dumbo. Peaceful days never last long in Snk .___. I agree with the thing about erwin as well. |
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| I kinda figured about the humans turning into titans theory from Connie's encounter with the one that spoke to him. I was hoping for some more answers, but I guess that's SnK for you! Can someone please just ask Christa (sorry, Historia) what she knows already?! And what the hell is the coordinate! God it's driving me crazy. |
RDW said: I kinda figured about the humans turning into titans theory from Connie's encounter with the one that spoke to him. I was hoping for some more answers, but I guess that's SnK for you! Can someone please just ask Christa (sorry, Historia) what she knows already?! And what the hell is the coordinate! God it's driving me crazy. Well, to answer your coordinate concern, I assume it is Eren, the guy that has the ability to 'co-ordinate' other titans, so to speak. |
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| @Estherella My thoughts exactly. @annie_leonheart Haha HxH. Good manga, but the art...I always laugh at just how lazy Togashi is. Isayama's not the best artist, but he is steadily improving. Every now and then he draws a breathtaking panel, and he's always been gifted at framing action and making the titans unsettling by having them lie smack dab in the middle of the uncanny valley (ironically this is where his problems with anatomy actually prove to be beneficial). I'm cool with his art as long as his story is interesting. HalfMetalJacket said: RDW said: I kinda figured about the humans turning into titans theory from Connie's encounter with the one that spoke to him. I was hoping for some more answers, but I guess that's SnK for you! Can someone please just ask Christa (sorry, Historia) what she knows already?! And what the hell is the coordinate! God it's driving me crazy. Well, to answer your coordinate concern, I assume it is Eren, the guy that has the ability to 'co-ordinate' other titans, so to speak. No the coordinate refers to the power Eren possesses, not Eren himself. Shitty translations probably made that ambiguous. |
| In case some is interested, WFT began translating the VN part for Mikasa's past: http://whiteflowertranslations.tumblr.com/ Please note that the TL is still in progress. |
zellami said: In case some is interested, WFT began translating the VN part for Mikasa's past: http://whiteflowertranslations.tumblr.com/ Please note that the TL is still in progress. Hmmm I wonder how canon this is. I mean wasn't the day that Mikasa's parents were killed the day Grisha was going to introduce Eren to Mikasa? |
| Re: Darklight0303 ponr Well, this is something I am curious about - the VN format usually suggest "routes", so how much is cannon and what exactly is the "alternative", is really hard to judge by a few translated pages alone. People who have "walked it though" would know best, of course, but, personally, I have never seen what such an extra to BD/DVDs looks like or plays out. Some info within the routes could be considered cannon, for example, her mom being the reason for the visits might be pretty much set in all routes and will add to the cannon (we know nothing about Mikasa's family except her terrible flashback, right?) On the other hand, Mikasa and Eren's first meeting is clearly different in the manga. Anyway, I think it is worth it, even if it's only a tribute to the characters or the setting, and, Isayama is involved in writing these (Annie's story will come up with the December releases, if I am not mistaken). But you are right - whoever would like to approach the VNs, just beware of the differences with the manga. |
Throttlee said: Never thought about it before (also not sure if it was discussed already) but why a green unicorn? and red roses? Maybe it looks more classy? I seriously do wonder if there is any kind of symbolism behind the emblems. |
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| I read somewhere that roses can be symbols of both care and offence. Roses are round shaped flowers and circles are ancient symblols of protection, care, love. The Garrison takes care of walls (that are circular) and of people living there. Roses are however flowers with thorns, they are not defenceless as daisies, they can hurt who tries to pick them up. The Garrison has guns and cannons to kill or harm the titans. This is just a theory of mine, I don't know if Isayama uses roses with this meaning or just because he likes them. |
| Meh chapter honestly, I didn't like how it ended with that mood |
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| Here comes the confirmation of what we've long suspected. So the regular titans were people who irreversibly (for now) morphed, unlike the titan shifters who retain their bodies inside their titan forms. Connie took the truth better than I expected. So, the Levi Squad has been reconstituted with new members from the 104th trainees class. Despite how Levi acts around them, it's evident that he considered his dead squad mates as very good friends of his. That scene in the woods. A nice little break from all the seriousness and drama lately, and very reminiscent of the old training arc. |
ryoko74 said: I read somewhere that roses can be symbols of both care and offence. Roses are round shaped flowers and circles are ancient symblols of protection, care, love. The Garrison takes care of walls (that are circular) and of people living there. Roses are however flowers with thorns, they are not defenceless as daisies, they can hurt who tries to pick them up. The Garrison has guns and cannons to kill or harm the titans. This is just a theory of mine, I don't know if Isayama uses roses with this meaning or just because he likes them. Oh, I think that Wings, Unicorns, and Roses are pretty popular heraldic symbols (and tattoo designs :D). Isayama may like them, of course, but if we go back at the segments of the ED2 and the conspiracy within the Walls, the suspicions and the theories we have for certain characters, history could provide us with numerous interpretations. Just for a random example, the War of the Roses (the Tudor dynasty), Scotland vs. England (the unicorn), wings - a specific clan. All of them are related to sovereignty (mostly) in the medieval ages, but also to various world-wide mythologies they had been borrowed from. In SnK ..., let say ... hmm ..., the Walls (the Garrison's Roses) bear the names of chicks with crowns, perhaps also beauties, connected to the royal family or the King, ... whom the MP serves directly (hence the Unicorn - sovereignty, extreme courage, protection against poison, even). The Wings [of Liberty] are rather a functional symbol, but, depending on the heraldic intention they might depict a stylized version of bird (a clan or sovereignty) or have more abstract meaning - protection, swiftness (being erected upwards), blue-white/silver (by color) - loyalty and peace. etc. ... What if the three branches of the army are connected to different royal family patrons, for example, or different branches of the royal family. |
| With the theorizing on the nervous system being the same length/width of the nape weakspot, it's obviously safe to assume every titan has a human's nervous system in its nape. But what I think differentiates them is the amount of time the nervous system has been in its respective nape. Like Pixis mentioned, the organs probably assimilate to the titan's body. What Levi is assuming is that there's a barely cognizant or unconscious yet living human in every nape, but I think it's just the spinal cord and brain in the normal titans. I think once the "original' titan shifter's nervous system assimilate and eventually decay, the titans have to find a 'new brain', explaining their enigmatic consumption of humans. A human nervous system can only last so long, but a titan can live several lifetimes because it can obtain a new one. I think that's also the explanation for the normals being so mindless and instinctive. Nobody could maintain their own consciousness let alone their sanity if they suddenly switched to somebody else's brain. This could also give some later insight on why Ymir and Eren have lapses in their memory, and of course why Ymir was able to wander around for sixty years. annie_leonheart said: That could also possibly be explained by my theory. The Ragako villagers were the ones attacking at night, and they obviously were 'new' titans, functioning on their own nervous system. The normals in the forest were those that had been going from brain to brain to survive. Can't really speculate further without any information, but it can be assumed that there is a connection.Bertxannie said: why did the titans attack at night? Well, it proves that titans do not depend on sun light to move around, they depend on something else I remember Rainer telling Ymir "these titans can't move at night, you should know that already" when she asked about the titans under the tree, so its safe to say that their is two types of titans at least... one that can move only in sunlight and other that can be active at night (remember sonny and bean?) |
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| I can't fully understand the theory about the nervous system of eaten human people becoming Titans's one. Titans don't have a real stomach, they just store eaten people in their bell until they throw up everything in a kind of sticky ball. That's a fact, not a theory. I think that normal titans have been created from normal people, like Connies mother. The human being is placed in Titans neck and soon he's assimilated to Titans nervous system. As long as this works, the Titan is (almost) immortal. If a Titan eats a titan shifter the "power" (whatever it is) is assimilated and the body just throw up. |
| Keep in mind I'm not saying every eaten human has their nervous taken, it's only when the titan's 'current' one starts gradually failing, like any human's nervous system does. I think there's a sort of selection process inside the belly where the titan's body decides which human's nervous system it will replace its exhausted one with. The scene with Eren inside the belly could have been the start of this, and that could have been what caused his titan to awaken because he was picked. I just don't buy that the original titan shifter's assimilated organs being enough to sustain a titan for 60+ years, mainly because it leaves their instinct to eat humans unexplained. The only ones we see frantically eating people are the normal ones, because all they retain from brain to brain is the instinct to eat and get replenished. Annie, Reiner, Bertholdt, and the ape haven't gone out of their way to eat a human. Ymir has, but doesn't have the memory of it, which could be because she's assimilated a new brain since then. |
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| I don't get why you guys aren't talking about some stuff... First, why they think they are the only survivers in the world...the world is really BIG. Second...the scariest part of the whole series. When Sasha found that man that took me long to tell if he was a titan or not, he was eating that woman and the girl in house reacted normaly, that's ok if he is eating her since she lost her legs control...so it seemed like a society where when someone becomes useless someone go and eat, becoming crazy and bigger, and the more they eat the bigger they become until you get to the level of a shifter. And that's why Reiner is called a warrior because he went to the course of fighting to become stronger. That would explain why Ymir doesn't remember somethings, because she was crazy for 60 years. Eren is the exception since he got a concentration of DNA. Annie and the other 2 come from the same village where they do that cult. And that 3 meters guy in the house had just started with that(he looks like Coonie's dad btw). And so you tell me that the number of titans was the same of the villagers and so how did connie's mother got that big? But that is a contradiction since the woman eaten was a villager as well. |
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pkKodama said: Two different villages.I don't get why you guys aren't talking about some stuff... First, why they think they are the only survivers in the world...the world is really BIG. Second...the scariest part of the whole series. When Sasha found that man that took me long to tell if he was a titan or not, he was eating that woman and the girl in house reacted normaly, that's ok if he is eating her since she lost her legs control...so it seemed like a society where when someone becomes useless someone go and eat, becoming crazy and bigger, and the more they eat the bigger they become until you get to the level of a shifter. And that's why Reiner is called a warrior because he went to the course of fighting to become stronger. That would explain why Ymir doesn't remember somethings, because she was crazy for 60 years. Eren is the exception since he got a concentration of DNA. Annie and the other 2 come from the same village where they do that cult. And that 3 meters guy in the house had just started with that(he looks like Coonie's dad btw). And so you tell me that the number of titans was the same of the villagers and so how did connie's mother got that big? But that is a contradiction since the woman eaten was a villager as well. But I agree with you that they might not be the only survivors... but as far as we know (and from what we know of the characters' knowledge) they're the last of humanity. Of course, there's Reiner's and Bert's village, but I'm not even certain if these can be considered humans. Assuming Eren's dad is still alive, I don't think he's within the walls either, so that has some possibilities as well. Also the fact that the "ape titan" didn't even know about the 3-D Maneuver Gear implies that there's probably another group of titan shifters out there, or perhaps actually intelligent non-shifting titans. |
HalibelTheEspadaNov 27, 2013 10:37 PM
| I wrote that before reading the "before the fall" chapter 2. Now that girl said they don't know if there are other countries because they can't go through the Titans, and she said she can't find information in books. That's interesting since Eren and others had information in books, so that means they got information during those 70 years with expeditions. |
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pkKodama said: I wrote that before reading the "before the fall" chapter 2. Now that girl said they don't know if there are other countries because they can't go through the Titans, and she said she can't find information in books. That's interesting since Eren and others had information in books, so that means they got information during those 70 years with expeditions. Armin also revealed that having such books is heresy. So all the more reason for people to not have them |
hhhvivek said: Is it just me or anyone else see Irvin as Villain? that face of him in this chapter makes him look like he is planning something else rather than helping mankind...what do you guys thinking about this? o.O Villain not, greedy yes. He just lost his hand so when he heard humans can become titans, that gave him hope to regenerate even if that means giving up being human. |
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| guys I was watching episode 2 of attack on titan and @15:30 annie was there now we can confirm that she was part of the attack |
keragamming said: guys I was watching episode 2 of attack on titan and @15:30 annie was there now we can confirm that she was part of the attack She was there as a human, just like Eren and others were. That doesn't confirm she was part of the attack, since they never showed her as a titan during the attack. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: keragamming said: guys I was watching episode 2 of attack on titan and @15:30 annie was there now we can confirm that she was part of the attack She was there as a human, just like Eren and others were. That doesn't confirm she was part of the attack, since they never showed her as a titan during the attack. watch back episode 17 and listen what armin said that she may be the one that brought the titan when the armored and colossal titan attack. its possible, |
keragamming said: pkKodama said: keragamming said: guys I was watching episode 2 of attack on titan and @15:30 annie was there now we can confirm that she was part of the attack She was there as a human, just like Eren and others were. That doesn't confirm she was part of the attack, since they never showed her as a titan during the attack. watch back episode 17 and listen what armin said that she may be the one that brought the titan when the armored and colossal titan attack. its possible, Yes, it's possible, they didn't show all the titans that were attacking, so maybe she was there. But what I mean is, that is not a confirmation. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
pkKodama said: keragamming said: pkKodama said: keragamming said: guys I was watching episode 2 of attack on titan and @15:30 annie was there now we can confirm that she was part of the attack She was there as a human, just like Eren and others were. That doesn't confirm she was part of the attack, since they never showed her as a titan during the attack. watch back episode 17 and listen what armin said that she may be the one that brought the titan when the armored and colossal titan attack. its possible, Yes, it's possible, they didn't show all the titans that were attacking, so maybe she was there. But what I mean is, that is not a confirmation. I agree. |
| Page3 Panel2 - IsaHaji deformed two characters in this panel ／ｓｍｈ Page26 - well, as expected Sasha's hilarious in this chapter. 3/10 for this chap. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
Xinception said: ....... So folks 4 more days to go. |
Darude said: Xinception said: ....... So folks 4 more days to go. probably two more days the raw usually comes out on the 4th. Only last month it came out late on nov 6th. |
| Goddammit. All the good mangas that I follow are monthly. Seriously. Every week before a chapter comes out, I just get a tad bit more insane by the day. |
| a few more days a few more days a few more days only a few more days |
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